Ben Shelley: Ducks haven't made any moves this offseason to speed up rebuild

The lack of moves is because Murray unbelievably thinks this is a playoff team.. no joke…

Growth from the kids & injury free seasons on the D … plus Gibson… Blah blah blah. At his presser. You could tell that was his theme … No matter what was coming out of his stupid mouth.

Is Murray's contract almost up? Perhaps he refuses/has been told (not) to do anything major because there will be turnover in his position in 2022. Regardless, this team will not be fun to watch this coming year unless they do something to become more competitive. This is an entertainment business, so it makes little sense to not make a splash when your fanbase, as small as it is relative to other markets, has the potential to lose further interest and dwindle in size.

The lack of moves is because Murray unbelievably thinks this is a playoff team.. no joke…

Growth from the kids & injury free seasons on the D … plus Gibson… Blah blah blah. At his presser. You could tell that was his theme … No matter what was coming out of his stupid mouth.
- dozerD10

He can't really believe they're a playoff team, can he?

He can't really believe they're a playoff team, can he?
- kingcong39

He sure does. It wouldn’t matter who you had on the ice …. You’ve still got the Swarm behind the bench … that in and of itself disqualifies you from doing good things.

I have an idea....😉

I have an idea....😉
- Powerslave

I’m all ears… if for no other reason than to see that badass avatar more…

Which if I may, is no. 1 on the Buzz hands down

I'm not necessarily concerned with the lack of movement. Rakell and Manson are coming off horrible years. Their value couldn't be lower imo. Why move them now? With new coaches in place and an emphasis on an improved PP, who's to say Rakell doesn't have a bounce back year. His trade value will only increase if at the trade deadline he's hovering around 20G. Same with Manson (health a priority). Playoff teams will offer much more then than they will now.

I would hope Lindholm signs an extension soon. This team can ill afford to lose Manson and Lindholm. He's only 27.

I think Murray is playing chicken with Adams and holding firm on his offer for Eichel. Adams is evidently doing the same with regards to the return he expects. I for one am glad Murray didn't do anything in the UFA market, and he's already stated that any players he acquires need to be young to compliment the rebuild. Trading for 28 year olds does nothing for this franchise.

You bring up Arizona as the way to rebuild. They've been in Arizona for 24 seasons and have made the playoffs 9 times. The last 9 seasons they've made the playoffs once, losing in the first round in 2020. Prior to 2020, their previous playoff team was 2012. From 2013 thru 2019 they missed the playoffs (7 straight seasons). The Ducks have missed 3 years running and we act like the sky is falling.

I'm still holding out hope that the reason there has been no movement is that BM is still playing chicken with Buffalo on Eichel. And I think he's betting that Rakell and Manson will have better years and be more valuable mid-season or at the deadline than they are today.

Plan B would be taking on a couple bad contracts for 1st/2nd round picks, but you'll probably get more value at the deadline when a few teams are desperate to free up cap space to get that last piece for a deep playoff run. There are more sucker deals at the deadline than in August, and the Ducks are set up to take advantage of that if this season goes the way most of us think it will.

The only moves the Ducks should be making is moving out any and all players over the age of 25 that have any value. Guys like Henrique, Rakell, Silfverberg, Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson should all be shipped out for futures.

I'm on the fence about Gibson. He's a world-class goaltender locked up to a long term and eminently reasonable contract. Even if the Ducks can swing a quicker rebuild (3-4 years), Gibson will be on the wrong side of 30 before the team is ready to compete. He might be worth keeping, but if there's a team willing to give up a sizeable haul (multiple 1sts and/or blue-chip prospects), then the Ducks should move him too.

Acquire some negative value players for additional assets and start to build up the pipeline for the future. After Zegras, Drysdale, and MacTavish, the Ducks don't have a lot in the system to build around. Time to change that.

I'm not necessarily concerned with the lack of movement. Rakell and Manson are coming off horrible years. Their value couldn't be lower imo. Why move them now? With new coaches in place and an emphasis on an improved PP, who's to say Rakell doesn't have a bounce back year. His trade value will only increase if at the trade deadline he's hovering around 20G. Same with Manson (health a priority). Playoff teams will offer much more then than they will now.

I would hope Lindholm signs an extension soon. This team can ill afford to lose Manson and Lindholm. He's only 27.

I think Murray is playing chicken with Adams and holding firm on his offer for Eichel. Adams is evidently doing the same with regards to the return he expects. I for one am glad Murray didn't do anything in the UFA market, and he's already stated that any players he acquires need to be young to compliment the rebuild. Trading for 28 year olds does nothing for this franchise.

You bring up Arizona as the way to rebuild. They've been in Arizona for 24 seasons and have made the playoffs 9 times. The last 9 seasons they've made the playoffs once, losing in the first round in 2020. Prior to 2020, their previous playoff team was 2012. From 2013 thru 2019 they missed the playoffs (7 straight seasons). The Ducks have missed 3 years running and we act like the sky is falling.
- quackup

This is my exact thought process as well. The trade value for Rakell and Manson are at a low right now. Let Rakell come back and hopefully have a decent or slight bounce back year and I think there is a better return at the deadline. I will also agree that there are several teams that would like Manson, but the injury history is a big red flag, if he can stay healthy until the deadline it would be easier to get a return for him.

Lindholm has played well for the Ducks and is still young enough to be a true leader for this team to make it through the rebuild.

I think holding onto the cap space until the deadline is a wise decision. Yes we could pick up a couple picks now by trading it but at the same sense GMs are a lot more greedy at the deadline and willing to make those kind of moves. That being said I don't fully know why we aren't moving Kesler's contract now...it has no value to us now as we aren't going to need the LTIR cap space. Flip it to a Toronto, Tampa or someone who could use that.

I know we want excitement and movement but I don't see any real hockey trades that benefit us right now and for the future, as anything we have to give up would be from our future.

Would be fun to make moves in the off season but hopefully Getz, Rakell and Manson are all traded at the deadline. Or I would hope 2 of the 3 are moved.

The only moves the Ducks should be making is moving out any and all players over the age of 25 that have any value. Guys like Henrique, Rakell, Silfverberg, Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson should all be shipped out for futures.

I'm on the fence about Gibson. He's a world-class goaltender locked up to a long term and eminently reasonable contract. Even if the Ducks can swing a quicker rebuild (3-4 years), Gibson will be on the wrong side of 30 before the team is ready to compete. He might be worth keeping, but if there's a team willing to give up a sizeable haul (multiple 1sts and/or blue-chip prospects), then the Ducks should move him too.

Acquire some negative value players for additional assets and start to build up the pipeline for the future. After Zegras, Drysdale, and MacTavish, the Ducks don't have a lot in the system to build around. Time to change that.
- tkecanuck341

You can't ship every veteran out. There has to be some players left to mentor the kids.
As far as Gibson goes, he still has 6 years on his contract. His trade value isn't going to drop in the next couple of years. By then, maybe Dostal will be ready to take over the reins.

The only moves the Ducks should be making is moving out any and all players over the age of 25 that have any value. Guys like Henrique, Rakell, Silfverberg, Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson should all be shipped out for futures.

I'm on the fence about Gibson. He's a world-class goaltender locked up to a long term and eminently reasonable contract. Even if the Ducks can swing a quicker rebuild (3-4 years), Gibson will be on the wrong side of 30 before the team is ready to compete. He might be worth keeping, but if there's a team willing to give up a sizeable haul (multiple 1sts and/or blue-chip prospects), then the Ducks should move him too.

Acquire some negative value players for additional assets and start to build up the pipeline for the future. After Zegras, Drysdale, and MacTavish, the Ducks don't have a lot in the system to build around. Time to change that.
- tkecanuck341

Lindholm & Fowler should stay out of that group

At this point why not wait til the trade deadline to try and weaponize the cap to get more assets. Not really sure what teams would need to free up cap space now, but as it gets closer to the deadline there may be teams, maybe the ducks get involved in some 3 way deals.

Why in the hell should Barstool Bob bring in more veterans? That will leave guys like Perrault, Groulx, and even Kindopp stuck down in San Diego again. How often have you blogged about playing the kids? Well, now that's going to happen! The Gulls have been playing really well the past 2 seasons, let's see what they've got at the NHL level. Hell, it can't get any worse. There will be plenty of time to dump Rakell, Manson, and maybe Henrique at the trade deadline. Until then, PLAY THE KIDS!

Why in the hell should Barstool Bob bring in more veterans? That will leave guys like Perrault, Groulx, and even Kindopp stuck down in San Diego again. How often have you blogged about playing the kids? Well, now that's going to happen! The Gulls have been playing really well the past 2 seasons, let's see what they've got at the NHL level. Hell, it can't get any worse. There will be plenty of time to dump Rakell, Manson, and maybe Henrique at the trade deadline. Until then, PLAY THE KIDS!
- duxcup07

I’m looking for one young Vet… has to be specific skill set and fit though -
DuBois / JE or Laine… type.

Ben Shelley: Ducks haven't made any moves this offseason to speed up rebuild
- Ben-Shelley

Shane Wright will be the offseason acquisition to help you boys over the hump. Tank time